Regarding individuals and sources of information

[Xylaquin]

I think we should make it clear the policies of information sources, particularly regarding the announcement of TS4.

TimeSplitters Portal does not want to get on the bad side of Crytek or any professional body for that matter. But we can appreciate that most of you are anxious for information and confirmation of TS4's supposed development and release.

• By all means, pester Crytek employees, but do not pester people outside of Crytek.

People who don't work for Crytek are not accountable, no matter what their connection is. Plus even if "Contact Jimmy" is a friend of someone who works at Crytek, if Jimmy claims to know information he's either broken a non-disclosure agreement, or he's lying. So please, don't try to get or go by information obtained from 3rd party individuals.

• As a matter of respect, I believe you shouldn't contact a Crytek employee via Facebook or other means outside of their website or official places.

You've had a long day at work and then come home, log into Facebook to do some socialising when some randomer asks you about TS4. How'd you like that?

So if you want to contact Crytek you can click here or go to the official Crytek forums.

[FuturePerfection]

Understandably, we're a bunch of paedophile stalkers. I agree with you on this one. I'm not that desperate for TS4

[(insert name here)]

I understand the not pestering people on Facebook thing; however, I think use the "proper" means of communication will get little to no response other than maybe a a generic pre-written answer.  I'd say we should all just sit tight at this point.  We're very close to an announcement, so trying to find leaked information just seems pointless now.

[Artur]

As a matter of respect, I believe you shouldn't contact a Crytek employee via Facebook or other means outside of their website or official places.

If you don't want people to contact you outside your work, then you shouldn't have a twitter, facebook or w/e social community you are an with your real name, as always people will try to get information out of you.

I can understand why this topic was created, but if you jump into the lions cage, you'll meet the lions.

[Godman]

I can understand why this topic was created, but if you jump into the lions cage, you'll meet the lions.

It's not jumping into the lions cage, they didn't ask for this attention. It's being attacked by a lion when you went for tea in Kenya.

[Lord_Chanticleer]

I understand the not pestering people on Facebook thing; however, I think use the "proper" means of communication will get little to no response other than maybe a a generic pre-written answer.

It doesn't always have to happen through the Crytek owned websites, does it? Some of the employees got their own website, like Norgate. I guess those sites too would count as one of the official channels that could be used to angle for some information.

I'd say we should all just sit tight at this point.  We're very close to an announcement, so trying to find leaked information just seems pointless now.

Absolutely true. In that respect wouldn't it be a good idea to impose a sort of "stalking prohibition"? If we're serious about protecting the jobs of Crytek employees then I think we should consider sanctioning members of the forum who from now on posts any sort of info obtained via any channel other than the ones that got clearance from the from staff. I know that even such austere measures as a temp ban might not stop anyone from going out to do some snooping for their own private sake, but seeing as how such info couldn't be shared via the forum it might work discouragingly.

[Xylaquin]

I'm not saying this stuff to hold back information. I mean, yes pursuing people on the likes of Facebook is more likely to conjure up stuff. I'm just considering NDA's.

An important point about these sources of information, is most of the time (if not 100% of the time), the information given or the things said arn't significant enough to warrant hype. Too many times are people looking to deeply into things and blowing what someone says out of proportion (a bit like English analysis essays).

[Artur]

As far as in the other topic the guys said "They announced it", he referred to the things which were around for some days. I think he didn't knew that much and just said what was around for some time online.

It's true that it's not the right way to do, but there are people outside who do worse things..

[Sebphoton]

If by all means a member of FRD or Crytek has a public twitter account, feel free to ask questions, but don't expect answers. Looking up member on facebook is a different story. Many workers probably have private facebook accounts that we don't have access to, but would still be able to message. It's best not to facebook stalk FRD/Crytek employees or anyone really for that matter.

[FezzyBear]

Haha, I missed this whole kerfuffle.
Anyway, I'm safe in the knowledge that what I've done is legal, through the correct channels and protects Crytek jobs.

If they were under an NDA, then they would know not to post such information on social networking sites, whoever asks. Anyone who has been snooping around for information has been doing so in order to keep hope alive. By going through the channels of PUBLIC websites, I have been able to dig up information that threatens NO jobs, but still keeps the TimeSplitters 4 aspect of this forum ticking over.

Jens Schobel, by way of Twitter, said that he'd contact the community manager to see about the announcement. He was very gracious about the issue, and I accept that. I understand what the threat of the NDA involves, and therefore I pose questions that do not violate it. It isn't ethical to contact somebody about such matters on a more private networking site such as Facebook, especially when they have nothing to do with the project. But it's not illegal.

I understand why you have chosen to do this, as a TimeSplitters fan forum,

It's not jumping into the lions cage, they didn't ask for this attention. It's being attacked by a lion when you went for tea in Kenya.

Crytek did ask for this attention. They said that an announcement would be made at E3 or shortly afterwards.
Until an announcement has been made, then they will continue to recieve such attention. Not to mention that the added 'rumour' of an Xbox 720 and TS4 will have quadrupled such attention from the public.

[Godman]

Crytek did ask for this attention. They said that an announcement would be made at E3 or shortly afterwards.
Until an announcement has been made, then they will continue to recieve such attention. Not to mention that the added 'rumour' of an Xbox 720 and TS4 will have quadrupled such attention from the public.

CryTek may have, but the individual random people that work(ed) there did not. I'm talking about more private media such as FaceBook, I don't care if you go at them via more professional means. But appearing out of the blue on said more private media is rude and unprofessional.

[Artur]

I'm talking about more private media such as FaceBook

Why is facebook private? Everyone can see your profile and your information you gave to it. That's a public profile anyone can watch...

But appearing out of the blue on said more private media is rude and unprofessional.

So? The one who asked the guy over facebook isn't a professional person, so he doesn't need to be professional..

Edit:

Again, if I want my information i get my information. It doesn't matter if i ask them over twitter, facebook or any other >social< community or professional site. If they say something they shouldn't, then that's their problem. They know, they aren't allowed to say something, if they do, it's their own fault. You cannot blame a fan for asking people question to know information about his favourite game.

There are journalists outside who search in the trash of people to get information about them. Call it what you want, but they get what they want.

[chrismafuchris]

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

[Artur]

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Who stops me from doing so?

[Sebphoton]

Why is facebook private? Everyone can see your profile and your information you gave to it. That's a public profile anyone can watch...

The guys profile wasn't public, it was set to private, but somehow the guy was found through search and you can message anyone, whether or not they have a private account or not.